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kimL
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Posted - 05/15/2013 :  06:59:27 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Threw all kind flies to these suckers...nada

Since I was fishing a 250 grain sinking line...tying on a FS is kinda counter-intuitive but WTF!

Second drift through the pool





I still have one of the orginal Ray Stout FS safely tucked away that Ray tied at one of the early Tie & Lie.

RAY STOUT
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Posted - 05/15/2013 :  09:46:59 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Kim, Good to hear that it still triggers the fish to hit.
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Neal
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USA
796 Posts

Posted - 05/15/2013 :  2:50:42 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I always knew that the reason Kim showed up at T & L's was to beg, borrow or steal flies. Fortunately for him, he steals them from Ray and not me.

I have OCD and ADD. Everything has to be perfect......but not for long.
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Dave M
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USA
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Posted - 05/16/2013 :  1:09:34 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah Neal......he steals flies all right.......but the real reason Kim shows up is to take pictures of us that make us look foolish. The one of Reardon as Napoleon is the best......

Dave M

Dave M
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Neal
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USA
796 Posts

Posted - 05/16/2013 :  4:37:06 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
The one of Reardon as Napoleon is the best......


I have that picture. Would you like to see it?

Jeff, would you?

I have OCD and ADD. Everything has to be perfect......but not for long.
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Alan
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USA
478 Posts

Posted - 05/16/2013 :  7:51:01 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ray
We need you out there triggering the fish to bite. That is one great pattern.

A day without fishing is like a day without sunshine
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Jeff Reardon
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Posted - 05/16/2013 :  8:50:06 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Kim, if you like that floating smelt on a full sink line, you might want to try a Gartside pattern called a Fish Head. It's weighted, with Corsair tubing for a head and a flash and marabou tail. Big prominent eyes.



I used to fish them at McKay Station--throw right up into the discharge, let it sink, and then come tight and let her swing. I hooked an awful lot of good fish--but didn't land many. I think something like a 10 weight and 20 pound tippet would be about right to try to land those fish before they dropped into the rapids downstream. A 6 weight and 2X sure weren't enough.
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Striperflies
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USA
1 Posts

Posted - 05/23/2013 :  2:20:03 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey all. New to the forum. Found it searching about the floating smelt.

Question to all: I've fished the RSFS and get slashes at it but no takes or it's very difficult to get a take. I've heard the salmon hit the head and that may be why. Anybody have any experience with smelt like that?

Thanks
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pine tree timberframes
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USA
218 Posts

Posted - 05/23/2013 :  4:49:31 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
like casting a bowling ball on sinking line...
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Mike Holt
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USA
3604 Posts

Posted - 05/23/2013 :  4:59:50 PM  Show Profile  Visit Mike Holt's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Striperflies,
A old friend and former guide for Fly Fishing Only, Marshall DeMott, used to address this by painting the eyes at the bend of the hook instead of at the eye of the hook.

He figured if they hit the head he'd put the eyes on the business end.
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1weight
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Posted - 05/23/2013 :  6:42:21 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mike,
Did it help Marshall's hook-up ratio. Seems logical that it would work. Except if they figured the smelts were swimming in retreat.
But how much does a fish reason?

Ron
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Mike Holt
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USA
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Posted - 05/23/2013 :  8:47:30 PM  Show Profile  Visit Mike Holt's Homepage  Reply with Quote
1-weight,
I don't tie a lot of them but if you look at the ones I've done the eyes are near the bend.

It seems to work. I get more hook-ups than misses these days.

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